The Keyhole Prespective

I'd have to disagree with you on that, I can't see a connection between age and religion knowledge, I'm almost 21 and don't know all there is to know about my religion, and on a second note, if some do actually know everything about it then why would they mind explaining it to those who don't

Thank you for participating with us in this wonderful forum. However, allow me to throw my two cents. Honestly, I don't believe that the keyhole prespective applies in our community UNLESS you are discussing something religious. Some religious topics are discussable but some are truly out of the question. For religious is not about understanding but about trust and faith. Faith in Allah's wisdom who knows what we do not know. And to prove my point. When Islam came and prohibited people from drinking alcohol, they did not seek and answer or reason behind the order they recieved. They simply submitted to the order. Only now after scientific research do we know the effects alcohol has on the human body and mind.

Now, I only assume you're referring to religious topics because our whole lives revolve around religion. Our everyday decisions and actions are based on our religion. There is no way you can find an action that a muslim does or a decision that he or she takes without referring to his or her religion as a source or a reason for taking that action or decision.

I know you think some issues are atleast explainable. But I say they are only to a certain point where you have to continue believing blindfoldedly.

I think it would be more clear for me to explain if you state what had triggered this thought in your mind. Only then could we, the members of this forum, help you

First off, I really appreciate your well sought and organized answer, but my thread is not religiously oriented, yes that might've been part of the concept, but not all, and I'd like to point out that I wasn't pointing my finger towards any community or society, but for individuals, and as for matters such as alcohol consumption, you see I don't drink alcohol out of religious believe, yet I do know that it has been prohibited due to reasons that we all know and understand, actually the beauty of this religion is that everything makes perfect sense, all what I'm saying is that having an understanding helps creat a solid firm base to build your principles on, and if some one disagrees and sees that all is a given, then at least do not inflame the OP, that is the point of the thread, wether you agree or disagree, either participate on a constructive basis avoiding all inflamation forms, and respect the person who created the subject, or just refrain from participation


P.S. This thread is not about religion, so please do not deviate from the main concept, for this is not the place and I am not the guy to talk about religious matters

Greetings once again

I haven't the slightest clue on what way, shape or form is my response "inflaming" the discussion. How was I not respecting the participants of this thread? Calm down this is a mere debate, if even. There is no reason to be hostile

Now, I don't believe I have deviated from the concept because all the "individuals" in this forum are of a strict religious background. Like I said, our religion influences all our judgments and actions. Therefore, your small note at the end does not apply to us. And if you say you're not the guy to talk about religious matters, then perhaps you should think about what forum you're typing in. And what type of website this is and what the goal behind it is. The reason I insist on bringing religion up is because there is in no way we would believe a statement is "given" unless it is religious. Please recall our purpose of living, or the reason behind our creation. I'm assuming you ARE a muslim.

Now if you want me to put on my philosophical persona, then allow me. You have begun this discussion by genarlizing a concept. Your excuse was "the majority of the people you came across." Now my friend, do you honestly believe that such reason would make the concept apply to everyone? I rarely, if. ever, come across someone with such a perspective. I don't believe it is common at all. Unless like I have stated before it is religious.

I would really like to know the source of this thought so we can truly discuss it. Accept my thoughts as I accepted yours. My words have no way of disrespect.

Oh no no, you've got it all wrong, I never meant your response when I mentioned the inflammation part, and here's a glimps of my response

As you can see, I was still on the main topic, I was telling you that it's not about certain subjects and the goal behind this thread is to question why "some" people inflame instead of participating in a constructive argument, and if I may quote my self again

No don't worry about it, truth is I'm known for writing messed up responses


And as for what triggered the whole thing, well I can't put my hand on an exact subject, you know how things pile up, 'til you feel the urge to say something about it, mm.. let's take for example a subject like, marriage and whether is the option to marry a foreigner open or not, that seems to be opened quite often :P, you have to see those inflammations, and non-constructive in anyway replies, and as we all know there is nothing in religion that prohibits such a marriage, another example would be say the way people dress, I always get questioned - interrogated seems to be a more fitting word, not to mention the looks - for the way I dress , and as far as I know, there's nothing to prohibit that in the Islamic religion am I wrong?, I mean I've been dressing like so thru-out my entire life

And even if someone were to open a religious discussion, I don't believe that, that justifies a strict response, I can't speak for everyone but usually when I ask any religious question I truely am seeking a better understanding to shatter any doubt I have about that matter, so it really doesn't help when I get inflamed or even get strictly shut out

اي ما شاء الله عليكم

وانا معك اختي عسوووله ان شاء الله نبلبل بالانجليزي

thank you